courageous Christian leader
November 14th, 2007
I first came to know of this riveting admission of the failure from reading Random Musing’s post but had no time to do a post. On the one hand, I admire the courageous and humble stance of its founder, Bill Hybels, in admitting publicly to the mistake. On the other hand, hundreds had followed his lead of ‘modernizing’ the church with a philosophy of management and marketing taken from the secular world, and to hear such an admission is earth-shaking. Here is the article extracted from Christianity Today.
October 18, 2007
Willow Creek Repents?Why the most influential church in America now says “We made a mistake.”
Few would disagree that Willow Creek Community Church has been one of the most influential churches in America over the last thirty years. Willow, through its association, has promoted a vision of church that is big, programmatic, and comprehensive. This vision has been heavily influenced by the methods of secular business. James Twitchell, in his new book Shopping for God, reports that outside Bill Hybels’ office hangs a poster that says: “What is our business? Who is our customer? What does the customer consider value?†Directly or indirectly, this philosophy of ministry—church should be a big box with programs for people at every level of spiritual maturity to consume and engage—has impacted every evangelical church in the country.
So what happens when leaders of Willow Creek stand up and say, “We made a mistake�
Not long ago Willow released its findings from a multiple year qualitative study of its ministry. Basically, they wanted to know what programs and activities of the church were actually helping people mature spiritually and which were not.
The results were published in a book, Reveal: Where Are You?, co-authored by Greg Hawkins, executive pastor of Willow Creek. Hybels called the findings “earth shaking,†“ground breaking,†and “mind blowing.â€
If you’d like to get a synopsis of the research you can watch a video with Greg Hawkins here. And Bill Hybels’ reactions, recorded at last summer’s Leadership Summit, can be seen here. Both videos are worth watching in their entirety, but below are few highlights.
In the Hawkins’ video he says, “Participation is a big deal. We believe the more people participating in these sets of activities, with higher levels of frequency, it will produce disciples of Christ.†This has been Willow’s philosophy of ministry in a nutshell. The church creates programs/activities. People participate in these activities. The outcome is spiritual maturity. In a moment of stinging honesty Hawkins says, “I know it might sound crazy but that’s how we do it in churches. We measure levels of participation.â€
Having put all of their eggs into the program-driven church basket you can understand their shock when the research revealed that “Increasing levels of participation in these sets of activities does NOT predict whether someone’s becoming more of a disciple of Christ. It does NOT predict whether they love God more or they love people more.â€
Speaking at the Leadership Summit, Hybels summarized the findings this way:
Some of the stuff that we have put millions of dollars into thinking it would really help our people grow and develop spiritually, when the data actually came back it wasn’t helping people that much. Other things that we didn’t put that much money into and didn’t put much staff against is stuff our people are crying out for.
Having spent thirty years creating and promoting a multi-million dollar organization driven by programs and measuring participation, and convincing other church leaders to do the same, you can see why Hybels called this research “the wake up call†of his adult life.
Hybels confesses:
We made a mistake. What we should have done when people crossed the line of faith and become Christians, we should have started telling people and teaching people that they have to take responsibility to become ‘self feeders.’ We should have gotten people, taught people, how to read their bible between service, how to do the spiritual practices much more aggressively on their own.
In other words, spiritual growth doesn’t happen best by becoming dependent on elaborate church programs but through the age old spiritual practices of prayer, bible reading, and relationships. And, ironically, these basic disciplines do not require multi-million dollar facilities and hundreds of staff to manage.
Does this mark the end of Willow’s thirty years of influence over the American church? Not according to Hawkins:
Our dream is that we fundamentally change the way we do church. That we take out a clean sheet of paper and we rethink all of our old assumptions. Replace it with new insights. Insights that are informed by research and rooted in Scripture. Our dream is really to discover what God is doing and how he’s asking us to transform this planet.
For small and medium sized churches, the encouragement is that we do not need to despair that we do not have the buzz, the spectacular, the queue, the millions. We can still fulfill the essence of Jesus’ great commission to make disciples by doing the essential things: nurturing people’s love for God and love for people. Our smallness may even put us at an advantage, because disciples cannot be made en masse, or Jesus himself would have done so.
Any personal comments?
(For comments in Random Musings post on this look here.)
Entry Filed under: Church, Heroes, Megachurches
The results were published in a book, Reveal: Where Are You?, co-authored by Greg Hawkins, executive pastor of Willow Creek. Hybels called the findings “earth shaking,†“ground breaking,†and “mind blowing.â€

It will be exciting to see how the “new” Willow Creek looks like in the coming months…
Sorry, no coherent thoughts on this yet but some questions off the top of my head since we’re on this topic of mega-churches again: Is the concept of a mega-church always “bad”? Is it a “bad” thing for churches to grow too big and too financially savvy? Granted that it is not THE ideal model that all churches should aim towards, but is there a unique and legitimate place for this church model in our context today? But for a start, is there an authoritative definition of “mega-church”? Thanks all!
Your questions are certainly worthy of a whole post itself. Must try to do it! Thanks.
NKF, Ren Ci, Youth Challenge?
A bit of justification and indulgence never harms anybody, after all the good works?
What is a few dollars if it is “marked to market,” - conventional wisdom says that if you do not pay market rates, you must expect monkeys?
Is this what the Jesus business is all about - numbers of sheep, KPIs (key performance indices) and great buildings? Are “christian” sheep no different - waiting to be sheared by feel goods and charismatic smooth talkers? Where is all that Blibical wisdom from all those sermons and sharing - my bigger question is if the current concept of Church is right or relevant? More than 2000 years after Jesus, we are still walking like Moses, in the wilderness and in circles perpetuated by “commercial” churchs, selling DVDs Books and feel good seminars and retreats…….
Check the latest Grasse US Senate investigations where superstar sermonizers (trying not to tar all pastors….specially, the small church, trekking type!) see this url:-
http://www.springfieldnewssun.com/l/content/shared-gen/ap/Religion_Columns/Televangelists_Finances.html
Small and faithfully is better than big and slightly wrong!! 10 marks for Willowcreek they start walking like their talk, everything connected to Jesus should be free as more fortunate followers help less fortunate brethren and sisters.
Hi BP,
An insight for your church - be a Lamborghini or Porsche amidst the Fords, GMs, Chrysler, VW, - they are all mired in the bog of large empty factories designed to turn out “Model T Christians” - may you be blessed as a church with Jesus followers who will find increasing influence and voice in the 21st Century. Follow your Elohim God to an exciting new type of sanctuary church where all lives reach their God given potential.
Dear Pastor,
I agree with you that regardless of the size of the church, we need not dispair but instead, focus on nurturing people’s love for God and love for people.
However, I disagree with the following statement made by you:
“because disciples cannot be made en masse, or Jesus himself would have done so.
In the gospel, the Lord preached and fed more than 5000 people. In the book of acts, 3000 people were baptized in the Holy Spirit.
Once again, we should not have the impression that BIG is necessary bad. Small can be just as bad. Therefore, regardless of the size, we should be faithful to our calling. Remembering, it is the Lord who bring forth the growth and not us.
Cheers
Simon
At the cross, where were the 5000? Jesus had only John and a few good women to stand by him - real disciples. Where were the others?
Where was Peter when Jesus was crucified? Peter went into hiding too.
So, are you saying that Peter is not a real disciple?
The 3 thousand who were baptized in the spirit in the book of acts…are they a “lesser disciple” too just because they were not there when Jesus was crucified?
How many in a megachurch of say 33,000 will pass Gideon’s test and make it into the Lord’s army? Maybe 300? Most of them women(thank God for them)!
But I’ll do a post on megachurches to show that I am not against them. I’ll do it as restitution for all the bad angles I’ve looked at them. They do have positives that meets the needs of today’s consumer society.
And I’ll try to be more serious and less impish.
Dear Kenny,
Could you kindly let me know which verse in the bible indicates that the 300 Gideon army are women?
Cheers
Simon
Haha, you are sharp!…I think it is in Gideon 3:3.
I tend to agree with simon. Ideally, size should be irrelevant, and should not be an indicator of a church’s value. Just as the body of Christ is made up of a diverse bunch of individuals (greeks, jews, male, female, etc), so is the Church of Christ made up of churches of diverse sizes. And no one church can say to the other that it is not important.
Personally, I like being in a stadium packed with vibrant believers worshipping God passionately, and yet also in a small family of bros and sis sharing about our spiritual walk.
Why is the Singapore church so Americanized?
I don’t think that Hybels, Mclaren and all the rest of them are anything to crow about. God bless them for the good they do. But they are not our spiritual fathers. They are many dynamic asian leaders who are pastoring huge/massive churches in Indonesia, China, India and Korea. They get zero attention from us and the american christian press i.e Christianity Today, because they dont speak english.
Yes, we can learn a couple of things from our American brethren but for crying out loud must we buy into everything they’re doing. I recently attended a talk by Don Carson at SBC and hung around for his talk on the emergent church. There are no emergent churches in Singapore, period. Listening to the comments from the floor however would leave the impression that Singapore is full of emergent churches. Issues like emergent chuches, open theism are non-issues here and they have no bearing on what is happening in the Singapore heartland.
You are not wrong in your indictment. We used to be colonial slaves, but now we are american church culture slaves. We need a spiritual “Merdeka!”.
not just american… australian too! count the no. of songs during sunday worship that’s from hillsongs!
Hybels is a universalist and a pluralist. The same goes with Rick Warren. With his admission of seeker-friendly failure, he is now tending towards the emergent movement. Far more dangerous.
And he just signed a document a few months back saying that they worship the same God as the Muslims.
As for McLaren, he denies penal substitution and is a universalist as well.
These leaders deny the bare essentials of the Christian faith. By definition would mean that they are wolves among the sheep. It’s about time the churches in Singapore start looking to their bibles and stop blindly following the most popular trend in the US. Not everyone who professes Christ is a true convert.
There may be no emergent churches in Singapore at the moment, but probably many emerging ones. There is a difference between the terms. The popularity of Rob Bell’s Nooma series in many churches illustrate that very point.
So are you saying that Rick Warren and Bill Hybels and Rob Bell are not true converts?
I don’t know for sure about Rick Warren and Bill Hybels, but they are questionable on some of their major doctrinal beliefs.
Rob Bell is another story all together.
I believe the verdict is pretty clear. Putting the non-essential aside, the major ones include questioning the virgin birth and sola scriptura. He is a full fledge universalist. On the topic of homosexuality, he does not believe it is sin.
Mark Driscoll goes into more much detail in this sermon in the Convergent Conference. It can also be found on the Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary’s Podcast. Session 3, He covers a number of emergent leaders.
http://www.sebts.edu/chmessages/resource_2207/Convergent_Mark_Driscoll.mp3
Listen from 40mins onwards for Rob Bell’s belief. Very scary stuff. E.g. embracing buddhist teaching, etc.
Basically building a whole new religion separate from the biblical one.
Who is always right and perfect?
We killed the last guy.
Who can pickup the first stone to cast?
Eh? Missing comments?
I think it is a untenable to use the Bible to “justify” any postion - this gives rise to legalism and religiousity, the kind that creates unending conflicts like Afganistan, Iraq (suunis vs shiites); Palestine, Bosnia on and on…….
We can only use the Bible as a guide when we exercise our belief in forming the decision or judgements publically. This exercise of faith can sometimes lead to conflicts by emotive people who cannot see the soccer game only deadly “enemnies” -not “soccer” players who have a different drummer. The Game continues until the end of eternity or when freewill is supended.
We find our treasures where our hearts are and unless God guided, it is fickle.
Small or Mega church does it really matter or where are you with God is the only point?
MERDEKA NOW !!!!
LIBERTAD YA NO MAS!!!
Merdeka from lies and darkness!!!!
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