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		<title>By: Stillhaventfound</title>
		<link>http://www.blogpastor.net/2010/02/give-joseph-prince-a-fair-hearing/comment-page-1/#comment-2393</link>
		<dc:creator>Stillhaventfound</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 May 2010 01:42:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Guo Xiong,

I&#039;ve been reading Reformed authors for 15 years. It gives one a great foundation - though I don&#039;t agree with everything in that tradition. As I&#039;ve written on my blog, and Blogpastor I believe would agree, there are SOME similarities between the Reformed Tradition&#039;s Gospel and Christ-centeredness and Pastor Prince&#039;s gospel-centeredness teaching. I emphasize SOME, of course :) If we can not allow the other clear differences to cloud our thinking, I think one will recognize that the Reformed faith&#039;s passion to see the gospel of Jesus Christ (and the doctrine of justification) as central is really a whole lot of what New Creation is about.

Regarding the 10 Commandments and the third use of the law, my observation is there is a growing number of Reformed believers (and those influenced greatly by Reformed theology) who are deviating from the traditional Reformed view that the 10 Commandments still has a role to play in the lives of Christians according to the 3rd use. Read about New Covenant Theology and there are other Reformed Christians who would disagree with the traditional Reformed view. 

Cheers!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Guo Xiong,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been reading Reformed authors for 15 years. It gives one a great foundation &#8211; though I don&#8217;t agree with everything in that tradition. As I&#8217;ve written on my blog, and Blogpastor I believe would agree, there are SOME similarities between the Reformed Tradition&#8217;s Gospel and Christ-centeredness and Pastor Prince&#8217;s gospel-centeredness teaching. I emphasize SOME, of course <img src='http://www.blogpastor.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  If we can not allow the other clear differences to cloud our thinking, I think one will recognize that the Reformed faith&#8217;s passion to see the gospel of Jesus Christ (and the doctrine of justification) as central is really a whole lot of what New Creation is about.</p>
<p>Regarding the 10 Commandments and the third use of the law, my observation is there is a growing number of Reformed believers (and those influenced greatly by Reformed theology) who are deviating from the traditional Reformed view that the 10 Commandments still has a role to play in the lives of Christians according to the 3rd use. Read about New Covenant Theology and there are other Reformed Christians who would disagree with the traditional Reformed view. </p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
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		<title>By: Guo Xiong</title>
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		<dc:creator>Guo Xiong</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 12:57:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi all,

I agree with pastor Kenny that we should give Joseph Prince a fair hearing before we comment on them.  We should not engage in creating straw man arguments and then attempt to critique it.  To give a person a fair hearing is also showing love and respect to your neighbours, regardless of the differences in opinions. 

My theological viewpoint is Reformed, which I have only started to embrace recently.  Hence, I am not an expert in Reformed theology.  Nevertheless, I do hope to be well grounded in the Reformed faith in years to come.  Of course, I love and respect those who adhere to different theological traditions, for we are brothers and sisters in Christ.  As I come from the Reformed camp, I  firmly believe in the absolute sovereignty of God, and the doctrines of grace, that amazing and sovereign grace that saves sinners through the perfect sacrifice of Christ on the cross.  I have been saved and justified, not by works, but by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone.  All glory be to God for His sovereign grace unto us! Sola deo Gloria!  Having said that, Reformed believers do believe that the moral law (i.e., the Ten Commandments) is still the rule of life that guides us in godly living. My point here is not to advertise for the Reformed camp, for I am not qualifed enough to do so.  Indeed, I still have much to learn.  I apologise if I have misrepresented the Calvinist viewpoint.  

Similar to Pastor Kenny&#039;s stand, I believe I can learn from other who belong to different theological traditions.  I also hope to be able to read and research other theological viewpoints as well.  However, this does not mean I refrain from giving constructive and irenic critiques of viewpoints which are not in line with biblical truths.  Christians should be discerning and be willing to speak the truth in love when the need arises.  Sadly, however, discernment is seriously lacking amongst many Christians today, and this happens in Reformed/Presbyterian churches, churches which are supposedly strong in biblical teaching and exposition.  I believe we must have unity amongst Christians, but if we emphasize this too much to the point that we ignore biblical commands to safeguard the truth, we may end up having churches that are lacking in purity.  

As for the various controversies surrounding the teachings of Joseph Prince, I am afraid I cannot comment much because I have not done any research into his doctrinal viewpoints.  Suffice to say, after doing a quick scan of the doctrinal statements of New Creation Church at its official website, I respectfully demur and disagree with some of those statements.  

I hope I have contributed to the discussion in a small way.  So, have blessed week ahead.

Regards,
Guo Xiong.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>I agree with pastor Kenny that we should give Joseph Prince a fair hearing before we comment on them.  We should not engage in creating straw man arguments and then attempt to critique it.  To give a person a fair hearing is also showing love and respect to your neighbours, regardless of the differences in opinions. </p>
<p>My theological viewpoint is Reformed, which I have only started to embrace recently.  Hence, I am not an expert in Reformed theology.  Nevertheless, I do hope to be well grounded in the Reformed faith in years to come.  Of course, I love and respect those who adhere to different theological traditions, for we are brothers and sisters in Christ.  As I come from the Reformed camp, I  firmly believe in the absolute sovereignty of God, and the doctrines of grace, that amazing and sovereign grace that saves sinners through the perfect sacrifice of Christ on the cross.  I have been saved and justified, not by works, but by grace alone, through faith alone, in Christ alone.  All glory be to God for His sovereign grace unto us! Sola deo Gloria!  Having said that, Reformed believers do believe that the moral law (i.e., the Ten Commandments) is still the rule of life that guides us in godly living. My point here is not to advertise for the Reformed camp, for I am not qualifed enough to do so.  Indeed, I still have much to learn.  I apologise if I have misrepresented the Calvinist viewpoint.  </p>
<p>Similar to Pastor Kenny&#8217;s stand, I believe I can learn from other who belong to different theological traditions.  I also hope to be able to read and research other theological viewpoints as well.  However, this does not mean I refrain from giving constructive and irenic critiques of viewpoints which are not in line with biblical truths.  Christians should be discerning and be willing to speak the truth in love when the need arises.  Sadly, however, discernment is seriously lacking amongst many Christians today, and this happens in Reformed/Presbyterian churches, churches which are supposedly strong in biblical teaching and exposition.  I believe we must have unity amongst Christians, but if we emphasize this too much to the point that we ignore biblical commands to safeguard the truth, we may end up having churches that are lacking in purity.  </p>
<p>As for the various controversies surrounding the teachings of Joseph Prince, I am afraid I cannot comment much because I have not done any research into his doctrinal viewpoints.  Suffice to say, after doing a quick scan of the doctrinal statements of New Creation Church at its official website, I respectfully demur and disagree with some of those statements.  </p>
<p>I hope I have contributed to the discussion in a small way.  So, have blessed week ahead.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Guo Xiong.</p>
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		<title>By: Jesusgirl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jesusgirl</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Apr 2010 22:22:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only can say this, I was once blind but now I see. I was once lived in bondage but now I’m free by God’s grace and His unconditional love through realizing what our Lord Jesus had accomplished for me through His Cross. And all these was because I got a hold of Pastor Joseph Prince book ‘Destined To Reign’. Glory To God! To all who disagree, let’s agree at least, our Lord is getting all the glory and His name is being lifted up not Pastor Prince name. Afterall, if one is on the ‘judging mode’, how can they receive?
How can you argue with one that who was once blind and now see? Or one who was under bondage for years and set free live a life knowing is all because of the grace of God through the finished work of Jesus?
I’ve witness so many of people whose life being transformed after hearing the message of God’s grace. Is sad to see believer in Christ having dispute instead of giving glory to God. Let’s give Glory instead when you hear somebody’s life being transformed and Praise the Lord for His goodness. Amen!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I only can say this, I was once blind but now I see. I was once lived in bondage but now I’m free by God’s grace and His unconditional love through realizing what our Lord Jesus had accomplished for me through His Cross. And all these was because I got a hold of Pastor Joseph Prince book ‘Destined To Reign’. Glory To God! To all who disagree, let’s agree at least, our Lord is getting all the glory and His name is being lifted up not Pastor Prince name. Afterall, if one is on the ‘judging mode’, how can they receive?<br />
How can you argue with one that who was once blind and now see? Or one who was under bondage for years and set free live a life knowing is all because of the grace of God through the finished work of Jesus?<br />
I’ve witness so many of people whose life being transformed after hearing the message of God’s grace. Is sad to see believer in Christ having dispute instead of giving glory to God. Let’s give Glory instead when you hear somebody’s life being transformed and Praise the Lord for His goodness. Amen!</p>
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		<title>By: journeyman</title>
		<link>http://www.blogpastor.net/2010/02/give-joseph-prince-a-fair-hearing/comment-page-1/#comment-1722</link>
		<dc:creator>journeyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 07:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful to have another thinking and discerning fellow traveler. Shalom :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonderful to have another thinking and discerning fellow traveler. Shalom <img src='http://www.blogpastor.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: journeyman</title>
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		<dc:creator>journeyman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 01:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi TMB,

A cryptic remark - methinks better to say what we mean then trying to hide behind an apparently appropriate bible verse and by inference, an anointment from God himself. 

He replied: &quot;Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will  come in my name, claiming, &#039;I am he,&#039; and, &#039;The time is near.&#039; Do not follow them.
Luke 21:7-9

Please view my postings as that of a simple, fallible and sinful man. If my directness is offensive, my apologies because my of limited command of language and being a poor typist. 

Shalom

Let our ONE be just that, no more no less - just a simple 1.00</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi TMB,</p>
<p>A cryptic remark &#8211; methinks better to say what we mean then trying to hide behind an apparently appropriate bible verse and by inference, an anointment from God himself. </p>
<p>He replied: &#8220;Watch out that you are not deceived. For many will  come in my name, claiming, &#8216;I am he,&#8217; and, &#8216;The time is near.&#8217; Do not follow them.<br />
Luke 21:7-9</p>
<p>Please view my postings as that of a simple, fallible and sinful man. If my directness is offensive, my apologies because my of limited command of language and being a poor typist. </p>
<p>Shalom</p>
<p>Let our ONE be just that, no more no less &#8211; just a simple 1.00</p>
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