Comments on: Speculating on water crystals

By: Tim

Tim — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 12:01:34 +0000

Hi Journeyman,

Thankfully, you have misread me. Using an experiment done untruthfully to teach a truth just doesn’t cut it.

By: journeyman

journeyman — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 11:36:36 +0000

Hi Tim,

Hopefully you are not advocating that it is ok to use a lie in order to impart the principle about the Truth or have I misread you completely?

By: Tim

Tim — Mon, 22 Mar 2010 09:05:03 +0000

I got a forwarded email of this too, and did my own research on the web. Having a socio/psych background helps in that the bias involved in the experiments were truly glaring.

On another note, a danger of this sort of teaching is that it while imparts a sound-enough Christian principle, it should not stand alone from having a personal relationship with God through Jesus Christ.

By: i

Sat, 20 Mar 2010 05:38:42 +0000

maybe we should try putting bible verse cards on healing in our wallets/purses (but not read them), or wear christian-themed tshirts with bold words of healing and health… or study for exams by sleeping on our textbooks; p

By: journeyman

journeyman — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:40:29 +0000

Hi SHF

The “truth” is there are currently XIV recognized classes of ice structures – you can make thousands (infinite?) of sub variants by adding different concentrations of proteins, ions and other chemical compounds and varying the degree of heat transfer and the prevailing atmospheric pressure.

Interesting to see how ’suckers’ are groomed by a potent mixture of plausibility and using the image formed by your “deceiving eye” as your main input witness.

Need more information on how to manipulate the formation of ice crystals – start at a good preview by Caltech people (Linus Pauling started describing ice crystals in 1935) :-

http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/ice/ice.htm

By: journeyman

journeyman — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 02:01:56 +0000

Need a rational and scientific explaination – the same process that gives you cancer cures, vaccines, cars, internet, www and all the great things that make the highest standard of living to date and conveniences of modern life possible – from a respected scientific journal

“February 2009 Scientific American Mind
Placebo Effect: A Cure in the Mind
Belief is powerful medicine, even if the treatment itself is a sham. New research shows placebos can also benefit patients who do not have faith in them…”

Fact is most humans prefer a “Matrix” world – to be fooled by all sorts of amoral professionals – especially the Wall Street Bankers. This absolves need for discernment and ultimately a high degree of moral deniability.

Posing a question to my NCC bros in the blogsphere – why pretend to seek the “Truth” when the “Lie” is so attractive???

By: SP

SP — Fri, 19 Mar 2010 00:47:24 +0000

Hey! Some years ago, my buddhist colleague said something like this too and he told to to try if I don’t believe. He said if we say only the good things to the water before freezing, the ice will be crystal clear while the normal ones are usually a whitish mass.

Just wondering if there’s anyone here ever interested (or tempted) enough try it?